PaaS vs. IaaS - VirtualizedGeek Tech Talks Episode 2
Transcript
hi today is february 27 uh 2013. you're listening to episode two of virtualized geeks tech talk uh this is a little bit earlier than expected i'm traveling from work and there's an awful lot for me to do this weekend i'm actually moving so i'm trying to actually move in the cycles from when we get these virtualized geek tech talks in from late friday which was the first tech talk to kind of monday tuesday i think you guys uh consumed this geek stuff a little bit earlier in the week then later is what kind of my website data is telling me so hopefully uh we'll get these cycles closer to when you guys can enjoy it there's actually been a pretty busy week i've debated a lot on the topics i wanted to talk for the second tech talk vmware uh big week for vmware uh vmware released horizon the horizon suite which is a bunch of different stuff uh rolled into basically one skew not new products in the sense that there is a lot of new technology in vdi but most definitely a lot in what they bundle together to compete specifically they don't talk about it on their own podcast but obviously is to compete against uh citrix and the zen suites and desktops and app and uh citrix uh collaboration tools there's an awful lot to talk about in that uh probably end up being a blog post comparing the two solutions i'm a little bit green when it comes to horizon and vmware view in general but i think that will make a great block folks versus a tech talk i'm not up to speed yet on the vmware solution to be uh able to intelligently talk about it so we'll talk about that later one of the things that was pretty interesting in the news is yahoo ceo marissa mayer announced that they stopped or stopped ours are stopping employees from being able to work remotely or work from home this has been extremely controversial i think yahoo is probably doing the best thing for yahoo but it makes for great website flounder and for a great blog post so i posted uh a top 10 things that yahoo can do to further uh improve collaboration at yahoo i get some a little bit negative feedback from that i usually don't do those clickbait type post but you know what it was pretty fun actually you know the thought that yahoo should uh revert back to 56k modems because the last thing the last time yahoo was relevant 56k modems were in uh in style so you know that type of tongue and cheek type of uh commentary i did actually uh prior to that um spoof on yahoo's top 10 collaborative things that they can do i did actually post a little bit more series of article or post on what could yahoo if uh your infrastructure geek like many of you are that listen to this podcast and view the blog would you be tempted to go work for yahoo yahoo still has some really great infrastructure and tech i mean you think about it they're still one of the top destinations for websites for home pages they still have one of the largest free mail platforms available today they have a lot of other video content just for infrastructure guys their data centers have to be extremely impressive so you know the thought for a developer to potentially go to yahoo may not be as appealing on a resume or even from a technology perspective but from an infrastructure perspective you know it's it's no different than working for a in a sense working for an apple or google or any other big web destination they have what kind of drives us uh professionally and technically when it comes to challenges they still have a lot of traffic they still have the security issues they still have interesting products they have interesting uh statistics i'm pretty sure from a virtualization perspective they have plenty of uh instances that they have to manage they have uh cloud computing needs and both internally and i'm sure externally marissa would be looking in opportunities to expand yahoo's offerings uh from not just the consumer side but eventually into the enterprise i know very of uh a few enterprises that actually use yahoo mail for their uh enterprise mail it's you know a decent platform so you know that question is out there and it's still out there would you consider working for yahoo uh even though from a developer perspective the name is tainted a little bit from but i think from an infrastructure perspective if i personally interviewed somebody that worked at yahoo uh it would be a very interesting conversation and they still have a lot of great interesting tech i think uh there's some of the other news in tech google pixel kind of the you know where the virtualized geek is a virtualization goal blog google is one of the premier destinations for infrastructure guys in general the tech is always interesting uh google chrome is an interesting platform uh google pixel the i'm sorry the chrome pixel the laptop uh extremely interesting hardware uh but being a virtualization focused and cloud computing focus blog and tech talk uh more interested kind of in the back end uh i i always kind of understood google chrome uh the os the chrome os from a perspective as a fan client so when you think about uh lighting end user computing group google chrome kind of fit into the whole view mobile byod uh headless uh desktop movement so you could go with a very light desktop the samsung chromebook that's a 250 bucks kind of really falls into that vdi world with all the apps delivered in the end data center google's approach is to deliver that over the web versus in a uh thin client traditional desktop presentation model the data is all hosted remote very similar to traditional vdi solutions so you would look to lighten the client side with technologies that are be fitting headless units so wise type terminals uh chromebooks net in the chromebook is you know had netbook like specs so when you look at the new offering from google it's a little confusing the hardware is extremely it's extremely sexy you have a retina type display i5 processor extremely powerful machine but i personally can't think of a use case for a web browser that has all that power eight gig of ram 64 gig ssd drive uh attempted to buy the machine install windows on it honestly so you know that's kind of one of the other things that's happening in the news virtualized geek i think some of the other interesting posts uh i've that i'm really starting to really develop and get a better handle on what's out there and and where i think i want to go with the blog has been uh paes versus iaes i think uh in my own mind i've started to kind of mill the two ideals together you know you think of amazon aws is developer driven uh with eight strong apis into that cloud for a while i've been kind of battering the vmware drum for cloud foundry uh gigahome had a recent article uh about how cloud foundry is starting to fork a little bit now and then vmware has kind of dropped interest in that project and vmware is starting to double down we talked about last week how vmware is starting to double down on their infrastructure as a service offering and then the v cloud and v fabric apis into that and i've really been a big proponent of uh cloud foundry and platform as a service in general in the enterprise and if you think about it traditionally one of the blog posts i wrote a few months ago talked about how the enterprise is much different than uh the public cloud space when it comes to shared services so it's very common in enterprise for us to have shared databases so you know oracle is very expensive so unless you have a specific high performance application that needs its own oracle instance it makes sense to have shared instances of databases so when you think about platform as a service and writing applications to share platform as a service platforms or share platforms versus individual uh ia uh individual infrastructure as an instance i'm sorry infrastructure as a service instances past makes sense in the enterprise i think vmware got a little frustrated with that uh the idea just hadn't really caught on in the enterprise i think there's still a lot of hope for a pass in the enterprise versus infrastructure as a service i think the apis and the logic just makes sense but politically you know as i think it out you know it's it's a tough sale um as the infrastructure guy we can't push pass on our development our developer customers they kind of you know dictate what they want to use and how they want to use it and it may be that infrastructure as a service via a vmware type v fabric and uh vcloud apis is the way to go long term or microsoft's approach with uh scom and hyper-v and maybe eventually some azure type all those is most definitely a platform as a service that type of offering so i'm a little bit on the fence on where i think the enterprise would go ultimately when it comes to consuming resources from a development perspective into the infrastructure whether that will be a past path or if that's going to be an infrastructure as a service path with strong apis into the infrastructure well that concludes the tech talk for this week i'll see you guys next month kept it under 12 minutes told you i try and keep it to 10 but i like to talk talk to you guys next week thanks
