OpenShift TFDx Hot Take - What's the tipping point for K8s?

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hey how's he gonna keep thousand from the CTO advisor with this hot Tate on openshift I don't know if I want to say it so be sure 4.4 version number it's not it's just a tech field day extra and we spent the whole day as what about five six hours of presentations with the open ship team it was an intense day a lot of information some of it was stuff that I've always known but one of this thing I think the the thing that I've always

asked the OpenShift team had and have gotten uneven answers even in the presentation at the one start we got uneven answers whether or not OpenShift was a past in addition to a kubernetes distribution I think the obvious answer to that is yes the answer that I've gotten from the Red Hat team even pre IBM acquisition has always been well spent on Disney and erine no not really yes it is and fortunately today we kind of just got to the meat of it yes if you're looking

for a pass you can wholeheartedly check the box that open shift is a pass in addition to a cast in addition to a kubernetes compliant distribution that you can build whatever you want if you want to build cloud foundry cloud foundry path and have a kubernetes distribution as the bottom layer you can absolutely do that I don't know why I don't know why open shift and red had a soul apprehensive about saying yes it's a pet class plus more but thank you to the team for

finally getting to the bottom of that question so have they made a believer out of me when it comes to kubernetes no no not at all kubernetes will be with us for the next 10-15 years there's no doubt about it one of the we got into a OpenStack kind of sidecar and the OpenStack platform that Red Hat has well as has support out to 2023 now so will Red Hat continue to support kubernetes for the next 10 years yes the Red Hat is a proper enterprise

company this is Google we're talking about who's gonna sunset something that's mission critical to enterprises but why why am I not a kubernetes believer yet one is me and Brian Griese we have to continue the conversation we started at the end of the day which was what is the problem that kubernetes is solving for the enterprise pre kubernetes Netflix built an amazing infrastructure and set of services without having a container orchestration platform every cloud every major cloud provider has built amazing scalable applications they've adopted DevOps

leave the adapt debt that these modern application methodologies and processes without containers containers do not yet run the Internet so what's the immediate value as a enterprise for me being a early adopter for communities you see my vmware vsphere 7 coverage i'm pretty consistent on this unless you have unless kubernetes provides a competitive advantage to you at this point I will lead I wouldn't leave the early adoption up to other people open no good shift team dawn the tech field day X presentation gave us some

pretty interesting numbers and insights Red Hat has just a just under 2,000 enterprise customers for their openshift platform they have 44% on the market back in the net your math that puts the total market at 4,000 enterprises then where V spear has how many I could do a quick search to see how big cloud foundries I'm sorry pivotal cloud foundries customer base was so a scale thing I think the thing that that really gets it for me is when I start going to customers and they're

retiring previous systems to run those systems on kubernetes that's that that's the tipping point for me it's when customers say not only is it mature enough to write new applications on but our legacy stuff is going to get moved to that until then kubernetes is just a nother thing that i'm running in my data center is not a is not disruptive in a sense that it's forcing me to do everything that i do differently like vm's did the kubernetes is today is just giving me a

different way to do some of the things that i've already done that is until i have my conversation with brian or someone on his team to talk about hey what what can I do with kubernetes that I just simply can't do otherwise and I don't mean orchestrate containers if I'm not solving the problem with containers today how is containers solving the problems and thus kubernetes if you guys have opinions let's not wait until the conversation where Brian hit me up in the comments session either and

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